tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6236498470662179494.post2234814080138971986..comments2023-09-26T07:20:31.638-04:00Comments on Talkin' S-Mac: A Different Mock Draft OutlookTalkin' S-Machttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01986228427076682662noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6236498470662179494.post-13714831104288044842008-04-10T21:02:00.000-04:002008-04-10T21:02:00.000-04:00Stack,Good work. A different outlook. I wonder h...Stack,<BR/><BR/>Good work. A different outlook. I wonder how much Talib drops after recently admitting that he smoked marijuana in college. Could he fall to us? <BR/><BR/>Hometown workout: Former University of Wisconsin punter Ken DeBauche will have a private workout with the Packers today.<BR/><BR/>I should have posted this early, but adding to Stack's previous post:<BR/><BR/>Connecticut (March 26)<BR/><BR/>Fifteen teams were on hand, including four defensive back coaches and John Dorsey of the Packers to watch five players work out indoors on FieldTurf. It was a new state-of-the-art indoor building -- one of the best anywhere.<BR/><BR/>» DB Tyvon Branch (5-11 7/8, 208): Had a 38-inch vertical jump, ran position drills and kept all his other times from the combine. Since 2004, only five defensive backs have weighed 200-plus pounds and run under 4.40 in the 40. Three were drafted in the first round and the other two were taken within the first three rounds. Four of the five are NFL starters (Bob Sanders, LaRon Landry, Michael Huff and DeAngelo Hall). Two teams (Jets, Bengals) have had private workouts with Branch and he has made trips to visit four teams (Bills, Browns, Dolphins and Chargers).<BR/><BR/>» OL Donald Thomas (6-3½, 307): Had a 29 ½-inch vertical jump, ran position drills and kept everything else from the combine.<BR/><BR/>» LB Danny Lansanah (6-0½, 244): Ran the 40 in 4.72 and 4.73, had a 39-inch vertical jump, 10-foot long jump, 4.63 short shuttle, 7.17 cone drill, 22 reps in the bench press and ran position drills. He had a very good workout.<BR/><BR/>USC (April 2)<BR/><BR/>There were 90 NFL people from 29 teams on hand. Green Bay's Ted Thompson was the only GM in attendance and there were no head coaches -- but plenty of coordinators were here to see 25 Trojans work out (19 from the 2007 USC squad, six from previous years).<BR/><BR/>...<BR/><BR/>...<BR/><BR/>...<BR/><BR/>...and off the topic of the draft. Willie B. had his high school jersey retired recently. And disgustingly, he was wearing a boot on his right foot. Dude, get healthy!Talkin' S-Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01986228427076682662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6236498470662179494.post-69666894730128877082008-04-10T10:25:00.000-04:002008-04-10T10:25:00.000-04:00Alright, so we've all lamented the fact that there...Alright, so we've all lamented the fact that there is so much out there...these are the two weeks where we've just about reached maximum exposure. Everyone's got a mock, absurd rumors are flying, and the media types have been moving players around after the season enough to make a guy's head spin. <BR/><BR/>What I sought to do here is distill all of that informatinon into an average. So I combined all the mocks that I could find out there, the three mocks on nfl.com, scout.com's mock, and nfldraftcountdown.com's mock also. I assigned values to where players were positioned based on their distance from us. <BR/><BR/>I looked at players ranked from 11 to 30. I feel like the top 10 are probably pretty static at this point. I could be wrong, but I wanted to look at guys who might realistically fall to us. <BR/><BR/>This isn't exact science, but it is an average of 5 mocks, so I think there might be some succestions of likelihood here...the higher the number, the further the board they are more likely to go...<BR/><BR/>Mendenhall - 13.8<BR/>C. Williams - 13.6<BR/>Harvey - 13.2 <BR/>Otah - 11<BR/>Jenkins - 10.2<BR/>Albert - 10.2<BR/>Talib - 9<BR/>D. Jackson - 8.6<BR/>D. Thomas - 8.2<BR/>Clady - 7.6<BR/>Stewart - 6.6<BR/>Felix Jones - 5.8<BR/>Campbell - 5<BR/>Merling - 5<BR/>Kelly - 4.6<BR/>Cherilus - 4<BR/>Sweed - 3.2<BR/>Mayo - 2.6<BR/>Balmer - 2.2<BR/>Phillips - 1.2<BR/>Keller - 1<BR/>Hardy - 1<BR/>King - 0.6<BR/>Connor - 0<BR/>Groves - 0<BR/><BR/>These values represent average approximations of where these players might go. Obviously, when one guy puts Justin King at 22, that's enough for him to end up ahead of Dan Connor, who three people have 29, so bear that in mind. I do think there is some value in this though. <BR/><BR/>For example, you see DeSean Jackson and Devin Thomas are within a hari of one another. Now is this because they are of equal value? Is it because there are a couple of teams right in that area of the draft that are looking for WR? Or do half of the scouts think that Jackson will go and half of them think that Thomas will go? Common teams between the two of them are Dallas and Tampa Bay. <BR/><BR/>Also, you can see the DE's Merling and Campbell have the same average; ironically, all of the mocks have them going Minnesota, Washington, or Jacksonville. <BR/><BR/>Anyway, food for thought...just trying to find a different way to look at it cutting through all the noise...Stackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07525835033475133809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6236498470662179494.post-63508363025448073232008-04-09T17:19:00.000-04:002008-04-09T17:19:00.000-04:00Kind of interesting...players taken at #30:Joseph ...Kind of interesting...players taken at #30:<BR/><BR/>Joseph Addai<BR/>Heath Miller<BR/>Kendall Simmons<BR/>Reggie Wayne<BR/>Keith Bulluck<BR/>Patrick Kearney<BR/>...and Ross Verba<BR/><BR/>I bet that we draft at 30. I bet we trade down later.Stackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07525835033475133809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6236498470662179494.post-86277513065133733012008-04-07T22:13:00.000-04:002008-04-07T22:13:00.000-04:00Yonder Mountain String Band is one of my favorites...Yonder Mountain String Band is one of my favorites bands touring these days. One of my favorite songs that they produce is "If There's Ramblin' In the Rambler, Let Him Go!" Often times, this song applies to my mind. So, here goes...<BR/><BR/>Target List 1.0: (in no particular order of preference and a random rough draft)<BR/><BR/>Round 1:<BR/><BR/>DeSean Jackson, WR, Cal<BR/>Aqib Talib, CB, Kansas<BR/>Malcolm Kelly, WR, OK<BR/>Limas Sweed, WR, Texas<BR/>Devin Thomas, WR, Michigan St.<BR/>Felix Jones, RB, Arkansas<BR/>Antoine Cason, DB, Arizona<BR/>Kenny Phillips, S, Miami<BR/>Calais Campbell, DE, Miami<BR/>Fred Davis, TE, USC<BR/>Dan Connor, LB, PSU<BR/>Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida<BR/>Kentwan Balmer, DT, UNC<BR/>James Hardy, WR, Indiana<BR/><BR/>Round 2 (as a reminder, we have 2 picks):<BR/><BR/>Justin King, CB, Penn State<BR/>Mario Manningham, WR, Michigan<BR/>Lawrence Jackson, DE, USC<BR/>Dustin Keller, TE, Purdue<BR/>John Carlson, TE, ND<BR/>Martellus Bennett, TE, Texas A & M<BR/>Charles Godfrey, CB, Iowa<BR/>Donnie Avery, WR, Houston<BR/>Matt Forte, RB, Tulane<BR/>Jamaal Charles, RB, Texas<BR/>Terrell Thomas, CB, USC<BR/>Pat Sims, DT, Auburn<BR/>Tracy Porter, CB, Indiana<BR/>Reggie Smith, CB, OK<BR/>Erin Henderson, LB, Maryland<BR/>Shawn Crable, LB, Michigan<BR/><BR/>Round 3:<BR/><BR/>Steve Slaton, RB, WVU<BR/>Johnny Dingle, DE, WVU<BR/>Red Bryant, DT, A & M<BR/>Chris Ellis, DE, Va Tech<BR/>Tyrell Johnson, S, Arkansas St<BR/>Jermichael Finley, TE, Texas<BR/>Dre Moore, DT, Maryland<BR/>Quintin Demps, S, Texas El Paso<BR/>Kendall Langford, DE, Hampton<BR/>Chevis Jackson, CB, LSU<BR/>Andre Woodson, QB, Kentucky<BR/>Josh Barrett, S, ASU<BR/><BR/>Round 4 (again, we have two picks)<BR/><BR/>Wesley Woodyard, LB, Kentucky<BR/>Jonathan Goff, LB, Vanderbilt<BR/>Josh Johnson, QB, San Diego<BR/>Owen Schmitt, FB, WVU<BR/>Tom Zbikowski, S, ND<BR/>Martin Rucker, TE, Missouri<BR/>Ali Highsmith, LB, LSU<BR/>Tashard Choice, RB, Georgia Tech<BR/>Jordy Nelson, WR, Kansas State<BR/>Dexter Jackson, WR, Appalachian State<BR/>Lavell Hawkins, WR, Cal<BR/>Kellen Davis, TE, Michigan State<BR/>Peyton Hillis, FB, Arkansas<BR/>Kevin O'Connell, QB, SDSU<BR/>Ahtyhn Rubin, DT, Iowa State<BR/>DeMario Pressley, DT, NC State<BR/>Andre Fluellen, DT, FSU<BR/>Antwan Molden, CB, Eastern Kentucky<BR/>Trae Williams, CB, South Florida<BR/>Mike Hart, RB, Michigan<BR/>Geno Hayes, LB, FSU<BR/>Beau Bell, LB, UNLV<BR/><BR/>Round 5:<BR/><BR/>Justin Forsett, RB, Cal<BR/>Adarius Bowman, WR, Oklahoma State<BR/>Allen Patrick, RB, OK<BR/>Kenneth Moore, Wake Forest<BR/>Tyson DeVree, TE, Colorado<BR/>Craig Stevens, TE, Cal<BR/>Keilen Dykes, DT, WVU<BR/>Kenny Iwebema, DE, Iowa<BR/>Larry Grant, LB, Ohio State<BR/>Ben Moffitt, LB, South Florida<BR/>Patrick Lee, CB, Auburn<BR/>Thomas DeCoud, S, Cal<BR/>Jonathan Hefney, S, Tenn<BR/>Harry Douglass, WR, Louisville<BR/><BR/>Round 7:<BR/><BR/>Cory Boyd, RB, South Carolina<BR/>Bobbie Williams, S, Bethune Cookman<BR/>Ryan Moody, S, WVU<BR/>Marcus Henry, WR, Kansas<BR/>Paul Smith, QB, Tulsa<BR/>Ryan Torain, RB, ASU<BR/>Luke Swan, WR, Wisconsin<BR/>Mario Urrutia, WR, Louisville<BR/>Curtis Johnson, DE, Clark Atlanta<BR/>Darnell Terrell, CB, Missouri<BR/><BR/>The list thus far is missing small school gems. It's a quick compilation and some players may be out of place with respect to the round in which they will be selected, but it's tough to gauge where players are going to fall. In fact, putting together a possible mock draft is difficult because it is hard to judge player availability. <BR/><BR/>All The Best, <BR/><BR/>Talkin' S-Mac.Talkin' S-Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01986228427076682662noreply@blogger.com